It's vandalism when it's on property that isn't your own
@Commandshark, when will people learn that it is location, not quality, that determines whether it is art or vandalism?
@Tytinn, I've never understood why they don't put their skills to use and sell their art if they have skills like this.
@Commandshark, clearly this is a mural not vandalism that takes hrs done with permission
@Kingjames88, The picture was saying that it gets called vandalism, so don't blame me for calling that.
@Commandshark, no blame just throwing my 2 cents in haha
@Commandshark, agree 100%. And there is plenty better art and plenty worse vandalism. This picture is of the simplest art peice and the most amazing graffiti art
@Stabby, Yeah, it's like comparing something that I drew in MS Paint (bad) to a mural by Michelangelo.
@Commandshark, True, but if anyone here wants to vandalize my bedroom like this please be my guest
@Tytinn, art and vandalism aren't contradictory. It can be both.
@Tytinn, but it is quality that determines if it's indeed art, a line is not art, just visual noise.
@Tytinn, art will be art even if it is vandalism
When done on someone else's property, yes it is vandalism
@Catvomitmuffins, artistic vandalism, but vandalism nonetheless.
@Catvomitmuffins, we should get those "vandals" some canvases to restore faith in humanity
@Catvomitmuffins, I don't understand why they don't just use a canvas. That piece would sell for a ton of cash.
@Catvomitmuffins, wouldn't mind if this person vandalized my house
@CriTiKa1, I'd buy something like that for sure.
@CriTiKa1, Probably because many street artists that vandalize with their art do it so that normal people will see it every day instead of only super rich people occasionally looking at it, hoarding it, and trading it as a commodity. Also vandalism involves risk, painting on a canvas doesn't. Coming from someone who doesn't consider themself an artist I'm not condoning this kind of vandalism but for some reasons I at least understand it.
@Catvomitmuffins, When that piece of sh** on top Hangs in a museum it's vandalism
@Catvomitmuffins, Similar to the correlation between assassination and murder. Assassination is murder but they're famous
Honestly, most graffiti artists are a hell of a lot better than most "artists". They could make honest careers out of their art.
@The Lifeguard, if the only chose a legal canvas.
@The Lifeguard, graffiti artists are "artists" -_-
@HolyCatchphrase, Nobody said they they weren't (hence the title "graffiti artist.") In fact, the general consensus here seems to be that they are better than most popular artists today
@HolyCatchphrase, I think you missed the point of what he was saying
@angrytacozzz68, I suppose I did. But I mean graffiti is a big movement in the art world. It's hugely popular right now and a lot of fine artists are working with graffiti art - either actually on the street or in the studio. And when it's actual graffiti (illegal) it's usually purposeful to make a statement. It's not like graffiti artists are just people who don't know how to make a living off their art. A lot of them are. More of an explanation than you needed probably but there you are.
Okay to be fair graffiti is vandalism, no matter how great it is. If you want to use a building, get permission first.
Although street artists are quite exceptional in their respected lanes, we cannot compare Rothko paintings to street art by default for so much pain Rothko went through, family kept medicating him for his abstract art, and eventually leading him to le suicide de elegant (suicide is the ultimate form of art for those who watched the movie "Stay"). Devil's advocate repeats the same request that street artists cannot be compared to Rothko because of their own respected hells.
@CriTiKa1, Markus Rothko was and is a very renowned painter, which his last works of art before he killed himself is located at the Rothko temple in Houston, Texas. Six walls with matching canvas, all painted only black. His paintings are the only paintings in the world and history that can make a person cry just by staring at it. Now, people use that hall as a meditation area for both college students and everyday people.
@City87, I live in Houston and I was forced to go to that place by one of my friends who's really into art. Just sat there and stared at a black canvas for an hour bored out of my mind. Didn't really get the point of it, then again, I don't really get the point of this type of art.
@City87, His story sounds very sad, but saying those pieces are the ONLY ones in the world that can make people cry just by looking at them? And especially throughout all of history; there has been plenty of beautiful, moving artwork created since the dawn of civilization. It all boils down to your own personal taste and emotions; I don't think black canvases would make me cry, even knowing the story. However, something like the Cistine Chapel might do it for me.
@La Villa Strangiato, of course it does, but he only painted those as his final pieces. What you see in the top were more his beginning, so they are not all sad. If you aren't looking for abstract, then you know the only art that pleases you. It's not so much the paintings, in and of themselves, why Rothko is my favorite artist. It's his inferno and how he handled it until he couldn't anymore that I am interested in.
@CriTiKa1, it's not the paintings. The viewer is left with their own devices. It didn't make me sad by any means, it made me angry. Whether anyone feels that is not good art or that it is great, it is the fact that it made you feel something that makes it great.
@City87, as a sports fan I can say some people have an effect on you when you know their story. That being said you can't say someone is great at a certain sport based on their backstory. I don't see why abstract art is relevant at all but especially when it's evaluated by that persons life. Seems a bit unfair, and doesn't actually focus on talent or production, just a good story...
Look on the very sides of the bottom images. I think that bottom artwork is hanging somewhere.
Street art is just as legitimate and recognized as Rothko. Luckily, we live in an age that everybody wants a mural so all these street artists can make some money with their art, more so than a painter would make selling a canvas for your living room. Go educate yourselves on some art, folks.
Wish I had graffiti like that instead of half hearted penis sprayed on train tunnel...
I wouldn't even be mad if i woke up and found this on my property
To be honest, I find the 'WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DONT GET WHAT THIS PICTURE MEANS, YOU UNCULTURED SWINE, IT REPRESENTS A HUGE THING' less annoying than 'YOUR ANGRY I DREW THIS ON YOUR PROPERTY? DON'T YOU KNOW THIS IS ART, YOU UNCULTURED SWINE'
Location, location, location
*Dr Evil air quotes*
Honestly I'm against vandalism and would understand if someone took this down but personally I would keep this if someone made this incredible piece of art on my house or building
The terms aren't mutually exclusive.
And if I draw a d!ck on my friends forhead while they sleep then I'm called a d!ck.
I think that's assault
Technically, both terms apply to the bottom one