Yeah but we can buy a Triple Bypass Burger. Your move Europe and Brazil.
@Charlemagne, german doner kebab.
@Angular Notspice, Döner ftw
@Charlemagne, real Spanish food bit from Taco Bell, Swiss chocolate, German chocolate, real British tea, real gyros from Greece, real Italian food which is a 7+course wonderland... Shall I go on?
...here we go
@Osama bin Dead, I don't mind a political pic every once and a while, but this one.... No stuckpixel, please stop shjt like this.
@Osama bin Dead, More like "where Americans can waste 4 years on getting a nationally accredited degree they can only use in said country, and where Americans can get an internationally accredited degree that is recognized in the entire world."
@ Seductive Cheeto, while college costs entirely too much here this is still true. I've meet quite a few people who have come over from European countries to get a degree here because it's accepted internationally
There's Norway that's true, i just do nazi it coming, it would cost a Brazilian dollars to Finnish a degree? Yeah I'm stuck on Slovenia
@flavorless bacon, Germany=Nazis, nice. I'm sure all the Jews currently living there appreciate it
@MrToastBoy, I'm sure they don't... you know, because of the whole holocaust thing.
But don't these countries pay a lot in taxes? Therefore not really being free. Also, the US is a really
@Sriracha, (dammit I accidentally sent before finishing) big country. The population is bigger than any of these countries (not combined of course)
@Sriracha, You are correct that most of these countries pay ludicrously high taxes so that all of the failing social programs can be paid for. For example everyone always talks about Canada's centralized Healthcare as a good idea but the lowest tax bracket in Canada is 43% that is what the highest tax bracket is here.
@Kliment Voroshilov, literally 5 seconds of google shows that the lowest tax bracket in canada is 15% not 43%.
@Sttopa, maybe the article I read was poorly sourced or i was slightly unclear but I belive the figure they were giving included federal and provincial income taxes. Here is the article if you care to read it:
@Kliment Voroshilov, I googled tax brackets for income in Canada and the lowest is 15% however that's just on 45,000. Any additional income has its own percentage. For example another 45,000 would be plus 20.5%. Easily 35.5%. I also read the article you read and I believe it is talking about what the average Canadian pays in income taxes. I am currently living in Canada (moved here from California) and just buying goods is a bit shocking for me. There's a 5% goods and services tax and a 7% provincial sales tax where I live.
@Sriracha, I hope you don't mind me asking but what prompted your move to canada?
@Kliment Voroshilov, my fiance lives here
@Sriracha, I wish the two of you the best of luck. Though I think you would be better off in the United States of freedom!
@Kliment Voroshilov, thanks! I did think about having him come to me, but he has his own construction company and I can't take him away from that.
Yes but your college is more like an American community college as opposed to everything our big colleges offer, I'm fine paying for the best 4 years of my life.
@Michael Fassbender, actually they provide some of the best education opportunities in the world. Of course, if you're planning on going into law, business, education, or medically related careers, you pretty much have to go to a U.S. School, but if you're pursuing engineering, the sciences, or the arts, and you have good grades, these schools offer a great opportunity to learn and get your degree for pennies on the dollar of what it costs in the U.S.
@Ariels Man Meat, I'm not talking about education wise. In the US we have so much fun and useful stuff on campus. We have amazing networking opportunities through job fairs and student organization, Greek life, sporting events, free counseling and health clinics. There's a lot to US colleges more than education that you can't get at a "free" college
Granted, you need stellar grades and a minimum-level proficiency in the home language for most of these opportunities, but it is possible
Personally, I think raising our minimum wage, and holding universities to responsibly spending their money rather than dumping billions on coaches and stadiums and half-way decent coffee shops would be a better solution.
@Laser Shark Robot, my grammar is sh!t but it's also h*ckin early so take it easy on me
@Laser Shark Robot, those sports generate revenue for the school though
@Laser Shark Robot, what should we raise the minimum wage to? Shouldn't everyone automatically make $100k/year - then there wouldn't be any poor!
@Laser Shark Robot, The issue with raising minimum wage is that big companies will hire more people at part-time rather than pay full-time employees more. That's what Walmart's done. And small businesses that sometimes rely on minimum wage for everyone before they get off the ground won't ever stand a chance
You should check out the tax rate in those countries.
And then I end up tutoring transfer students from those free universities at a paid one in the U.S. I'm sure some are great, but man so many just rush through fundamentals and leave students with the "gist of it". When people ridicule the U.S. education system when compared to the rest of the world, they're not talking about it at university level.
There are scholarships that make free college a possibility in America.
@zacharyson, that is not the norm, far and away from it.
@Laser Shark Robot, did I ever say it was a norm?
I know in a lot of non-US countries, you don't have to waste time taking classes not related to your major; like you don't have to take the required US history class when you're an engineering major; this would definitely help people feel like they're only paying for classes they need
Sure but the cost of living there is insane
It's a lot harder to go to college in Germany and kids are seperated into those who will and those who won't early on
As a guy from Brazil. If you go for the free university in Brazil, all you will get is killed, not an education.
Because Germany is a shining example of society and always has been
@TheFury01, Other than like, that one time, its actually has.
@TheFury01, and America is better?
@TheFury01, except for the first half of the 20 century when Germany was kinda the world's dičk.
@R2 LSD2, I don't think America ever gassed entire races, but I might have missed that chapter...
@HiroAntagonist, did you skip Westward expansion and slavery? 10 Million Africans died JUST on the middle passage. European disease killed and military expansion killed 93% of the native population.
@R2 LSD2, The westward expansion didn't round up people to kill them, but forced them into reserves. Bad, yeah, but not the same. And America isn't Europe, so anything prior to July 4th, 1776 isn't on us.
@R2 LSD2, i don't recall the US hosting a genocide, but hey maybe I missed it
@Pious Augustus, actually they were. And they were or still are known for their industrious way
Ive gotten my BA and MBA free in the US. Would you like to know more?
Just means America is better in that regard. There's a limited amount of jobs that require degrees. This means that we'd have millions of people vying for tens of thousands of jobs. Not all of them can get a job they got their degree for. In the end, we'd just end up filling the job market with over qualified people working low end jobs. Not only that, but public schools in America haven't proven to be very good. Our colleges would lower in quality.
@ archiethesailor, so instead of the hardest working, smartest people getting degrees we should limit it to the wealthy so the wealthy can get better jobs and send their children to college. I see nothing wrong with this
@MrToastBoy, ever heard of scholarships, aid, loans and working while in college?
@RickAstley69, yeah my dad did that, had to drop out after 2 years. Doesn't always work out if you're living paycheck to paycheck
@ archiethesailor, I see FP hasn't changed much and prefers conformation bias over thought out arguments.
@MrToastBoy, if you are the smartest you'll get a scholarship, if you come from a wealthy family you're likely to succeed
@RickAstley69, Scholarships are iffy, aid barely exists, loans will never be repaid and thus haunt you your entire life, and juggling 40 hours of work with 4-6 classes and all the required studying and test prep, and you've got burnt out or dead kids. I'm not saying a high education should be handed out. But a decent education should be as critical as healthcare and welfare checks to pay for new iPhones
Wait we can what?? Germany... have I ever told you we would make great friends?
Also how tiny are those countries compared to the US?
Wow. That's awesome. Everyone who thinks that's awesome should move to one of those countries. *no one moves to those countries.
Nice try, you can't fool me into going to Brazil
There are a lot more countries that have free college.
@DeadStroke, "free" means tax payer supported. It's actually very expensive.
I'm pretty sure Sweden has that as well
Ryder cup champions are where?
Dam 'murica stealin our tree fidy