4 Wheel Drive DOES NOT equal "invulnerable to slick spots"... it just means you have all four tires spinning on ice! Always amazed how quickly people forget this!
@Suicide Squad Sucks, let's see how far you get with two wheel drive
@FuccanA, doesn't matter if you have two wheel drive or twenty wheel drive, ice is ice. When you are on wheels on an icy surface you need to not be an idiot.
@Cryptyc, not true on my driveway. My girlfriend just got an all wheel drive just to drive up and see me. Friction is real, the more you have, the more you move. If there was no such thing as friction then we'd all be stuck on ice. Any physics majors want to chime in?
@FuccanA, 4 wheel drive on a truck is nice to get unstuck but i will never drive a truck on snow and ice. The bed is too light so they have a tendency to fishtail. Driving a front wheel drive car is ideal because the tires that are spinning will pull the rest of the car in the direction they are pointing. That is the reason 4 wheel drive seems so nice. On rear wheel drive the front tires cant do jack because you will go straight on ice. On ice the front tires dont have to spin and if you are going to fast when you turn them your momentum while on ice doesnt care you turned the ttires they will just skid sideways.
@Suicide Squad Sucks, Yeah, everyone seems to forget that you stop just as slow as everyone else, if not slower.
@Suicide Squad Sucks, trucks honestly blow on ice. Not enough weight over the back axel unless you haul an ass load of sand bags. Also mud tires are not winter tires.
@FuccanA, they used to use VW Beetles in the Alps because the weight is over the drive tires (RWD, rear engine) and they're so light that they handle snow really well. Older FWD cars also do really well in snow for the same reason.
@azaraku, I used to work on a farm most of my life growing up people also forget not to slam the brakes on ice and don't accelerate past the total grip of your tires that's what induces sliding and loss of control
@Suicide Squad Sucks, my cousin and i took his jeep up to salt lake city before christmas so i could fly home to ohio and on the way we hit some snow. We got off on an exit and put on his four wheel drive, then continued to drive on the highway. Not 30 seconds later, we started fishtailing and slid off the road onto our side in the median. It was shjtty. It actually totaled his car since it tweaked his frame and busted up his door. It sucked, but i doubt i wouldve made it much further with my kia rio 5.
@FuccanA, nowhere, cause even though I have an all wheel drive which are far superior in icy conditions I choose to stay home as to not endanger my life or anybody elses.
Trucks are fvcking terrible in ice as well considering the fact that their beds are so much lighter than the fronts, unless you've got that thing loaded down with about a thousand pounds of weight you're sliding worse than front wheel drive.
Not rear wheel though, rear wheel is really bad in ice.
Still, don't be an idiot, stay home and stopped endangering other people's lives.
I would say "stop endangering your life and other people's lives" but it seems you don't give a damn about your own life anyway.
Also, all wheel drive is better because each wheel specifically grips differently, so when one starts to slide, the others compensate and pull out of the slide, but all wheel, just like
front wheel drive doesn't do shjt for all your tires being on ice.
Also, it's mostly trucks I see getting wrecked when it's icy
@Ser Waffle Knight, You mean endangering everyone else's life that's also out on the Ice?
And I use to have a Ranger that I would just load down with a few cinder blocks and take it a little slow and never had a problem. The problem is when people think they can still haul ass on the ice. Drive smart and take it slow.
@MrPuffNStuff, yes, and also true. Main reason I stay in however, I because of stupid people endangering everyone else's lives thinking they can just plow through.
@Suicide Squad Sucks, 4wd only helps acceleration and it's been proven many times over good tires will beat 4wd
@FuccanA, it's not a question of whether or not you get more friction with awd/4wd, it's the fact that it's so easy to lose traction on ice that it doesn't matter how many drive wheels you have. You need to drive slow on ice and not act like 4wd means you can do the speed limit in a 45mph+ zone
@Cryptyc, I never said I drive like an idiot on ice. All I was saying is that nobody with 2 wheel drive can get to my house. The road is pure ice right now and 4 wheel and all wheel make it just fine. Very little slip. I wasn't trying to be an A-hole. If you're hot roding around and driving fast then I agree with with everyone's comments.
@Suicide Squad Sucks, right. Being able to move forward does not equal being able to stop.
And good riddance
Well your truck is taking over the ditches now my friend
+76,294 you deserved it
To be fair, be did make it all the way from Newberg to Beaverton.
@ssa, that's only 19 miles
@Orderedchaos, but to crash for 19 miles... thats a big crash
+63892773 you deserved it
Idiot but that truck used to be sexy af
I don't care how old this pic someone will see this...just because you're in a truck does not mean you have more traction.. please...in rain snow and ice please for the love of God and your loved ones slow...down. if not for your life then the life's of others!
MN Winters are slick and tough/scary to drive in- yet every pickup truck thinks that they aren't affected by weather and it's the worst! It's like they think owning a pickup grants them a higher power and that normal road laws and weather restrictions are for the peasants without trucks. I HATE pickups and those who drive them (in my experience)
Dame that truck takes naps I want to be that truck
This one hits home. I just got back from vacation to see my sister totaled my truck in pretty much the same way. Anyone selling?
That's why you get a rally car so you can pass by those trucks going 80mph and can grip ice
@Domogle, eh maybe with snow tires and awd but I'm sure that has its limits
@Domogle, I see just as many subarus in the ditch as I do suvs and trucks. You still have 4 wheel brakes and 2 wheel steering just like everybody else.