Please. For God's sake, please.
@Medic135, yes I just wish they could go to the middle of nowhere to do it.
@CynicalSirr, I went to the middle of nowhere for the eclipse, you don't find too many black lives to matter out there.
This describes how I feel about this situation so well
@Bird on a Rock, Seconded.
@Bird on a Rock, thirded
@Bird on a Rock, I would say "if only there was a place we could send them all, to keep them away from the rest of us" - but it turns out there is.
Sorry America, but thanks for taking one for the team. Rest of the planet appreciates it. 😄
One of these sides is not like the other because one of them doesn't exist
@Donald Drumpf, Yeah. The KKK doesn't really wear their robes around anymore.
@Donald Drumpf, are you an Antifa denier?
@Weird Porn Stash, youre right they don't wear robes anymore, they wear blue jeans and overly bent baseball hats
@big freedom, no they totally exist, I'll even concede that some among them might support a communist ideology. However, not once have they ever seriously said "kill all the white people" probably because the group itself is nearly half white.
@Donald Drumpf, self hating no doubt. But you're right, they don't say kill all the white people. They say beat down and silence anyone who disagrees them. They take actual nazi tactics and are using them without realizing the irony.
@big freedom, still better than being an actual nazi. Also for the most part no most members believe in peaceful protests but I guess one punch is enough for you to hate them but driving a car into a crowd isn't enough for you to condemn the other side.
@big freedom, yes all the Nazi tactics. The Nazi's ate food, you know who else eats food? That's right antifa! What hypocrites
@Runnin with scissors, antifa does not believe in peaceful protest, do you even know who they are? Look up their ideology and beliefs, seriously, that is the most inaccurate thing I've ever heard said about antifa. Also, he didn't say he didn't condemn Nazis (big freedom, that is) but thanks for strawmanning and putting words in his mouth, it really makes you look like you know what you're talking about.
@Donald Drumpf, no, the Nazis used violence and intimidation against their opponents, and who else does that? Right, antifa. Try being less delusional about all of this and see both sides for what they actually are. You're acting like one side is good and the other is evil, in reality you're dealing with Soviets and Nazis.
@Runnin with scissors, so your bar for bad is being an actual nazi? That's an awfully low standard. I hope any group I belong to is never measured against that standard. Well guys, at least we're not actual nazis.
And nice job ignoring what they've done in Seattle, Portland, San Jose, Berkeley, etc where they attack people with bike locks because they wanted to attend a rally. But at least they're not actual nazis. Good enough for you.
@Donald Drumpf, nice straw man. You're such a useful idiot.
@Runnin with scissors, Antifa are communist terrorists that use nazi tactics to get what they want. They arrive to any and all rallies they disapprove of with weapons and cause riots and brawls in the street. They conceal themselves in all black to hide their identity as they beat people in the street, fight the police, and break into and steal from stores. They are absolutely terrorists and must be recognized as such.
@Donald Drumpf, you get more shlt on this app than you deserve. These... "people" are very Ayn Rand-ish when it's politics funny.
@Iswearimfunny, id rather be Ayn Rand-ish than whatever pro-statism, anti-liberty, sucking at the teet of the state, you guys are. Solidarity comrade is what you meant.
The worst part about this whole White Supremecist/Antifa thing is I dont want them to die either. I just want them to go home and think about what they did. So its doubtful I'll be happy about anything
I don't think they said kill white people.... still wouldn't side with the Nazis.
I don't think they said kill white people.... still wouldn't side with the Nazis. They were chanting kill the jews.
@Dr Who Fandom, they didn't. This is just another attempt to try and make an equivalency between Antifa and literal Nazis/Klansmen. The "kill white people" accusation is probably coming from the fake Antifa flyers that were created to make it look like they were advocating the murder of white children. They responded to these flyers by saying:
No one wants to kill white people. This is a perverted reading of the idea of the “abolition of the white race” which says that the CONCEPT of whiteness needs to be dispensed with – NOT literally harming anyone. no antifa ever says things like the “evil white race.”
Take from that what you will. I still think Antifa are idiotic thugs, but they are not the equivalent of actual Nazis or the people marching in that rally.
(Edit: fake flyers were also created to make it seem like they were advocating white genocide.)
@Blue Shirted Guy, you mean like the false equivalency between supporting the preservation of American history including the parts some people don't like, and/or believing that all Americans should be judged by their character and that they should succeeds and fail on their own merit, and/or just being a Republican in general, with being a NaZi or Klansman? Yes, I know there were MUH LITERAL NAZIS there, I've seen the pictures (ofc we can't prove they weren't doing it to be le edgy rebels XD just like on the interwebs), but that doesn't mean the majority of people at these rallies aren't just trying to push back against what can easily be perceived as an ongoing media and social campaign against white people especially white males. Not to mention the proof that Antifa are more directly violent than even the actual literal heiling NaZis, and tend to act violent as a group more. So yeah, I don't think it's a false equivalency, at least not how you think it is
@Blue Shirted Guy, TL;DR (that's his YouTube name) and Sargon of Akkad do excellent videos on this whole thing. Though I do recommend ensuring you watch videos from both sides I will say that these chaps are very researched and go in depth. It shows that the media are actually misreporting a lot of things. I'd recommend checking them out.
@Captain Swordsman, the fact that you even think it's a possibility that there weren't literal Nazis there, just edgy rebels dressing like them, is absolutely disgusting. I mean, are you serious?
I never made the equivalency between republicans and Nazis. There were literal Nazis and Klansmen chanting "Jews will not replace us" and "blood and soil", claiming that Heather Heyer's death was deserved, and that they were victorious after none of their group died. Any person marching with them is despicable. To say that "oh, the majority of them are just republicans sick of the media" is disgusting as well. They are marching with NAZIS. There was not a single "fine person" on that side of the rally. Not a single one.
Show me that proof. Antifa should be condemned and they are violent thugs, but they are not even CLOSE to the evils of Nazism. Do I need to remind you the ideologies of Nazism?
@Captain Swordsman, from the failing and fake news New York Times:
"But overall, far-right extremist plots have been far more deadly than far-left plots (and Islamist plots eclipsed both) in the past 25 years, according to a breakdown of two terrorism databases by Alex Nowrasteh, an analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute.
White nationalists; militia movements; anti-Muslim attackers; I.R.S. building and abortion clinic bombers; and other right-wing groups were responsible for 12 times as many fatalities and 36 times as many injuries as communists; socialists; animal rights and environmental activists; anti-white- and Black Lives Matter-inspired attackers; and other left-wing groups."
Again, Antifa are scum and should be condemned, but there is absolutely no equivalency here.
@Captain Swordsman, https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-alt-left-fact-check.amp.html
@Sambob, glossed over this, my bad. Will do!
@Blue Shirted Guy, remember don't trust every bit of media you see, especially main stream stuff. That's not to say all alternative media is true either. Everything is biased but I personally wouldnt trust anything from a news station.
Look for both sides, look for on ground footage from both sides and scrutinise those who provide it.
@Sambob, oh definitely. Even the New York Times is obviously biased. The study they cited makes sure to mention the upswing in left-wing terrorism recently, which the NYT naturally left out of their article.
As to the ground footage, I know Antifa incites tons of violence. I'm just arguing against the equivalency that's being made. I'm not even arguing against them being labeled terrorists. I just want people to put some more critical thought into the comparison. The ideologies themselves just differ so much in scale. (Edit: which is why these white genocide accusations and "alt-left" labels are being thrown around now. Trying to make an equivalency.)
@Blue Shirted Guy, I'm skeptical on studies that try to pin violence on one side. I bet if you look at how the study was done, they called anything that could be considered right wing a right terrorist attack, but refused to call the attacks by left unless the attacker actually admits to terrorism. Like the IRS attack, I bet they said the dude who flew a plane into an IRS building was right wing, when his political beliefs were as much left as right.
You can say Nazis are worse than Antifa, whatever, it's trying to decide which is worse, a jerk or an ahole. But lately it's been the left wing groups whose protests turn into vandalism and destruction (occupy wall street, lot of BLM protests, protests after Trump won, etc.). Except for charteloville, there's not a lot on the alt rights side
@Oujosh29, it wasn't trying to pin violence on one side. As I said, it specified that left-wing domestic terrorism has seen a surge. Decades ago, left-wing terrorism used to be far worse. In recent decades, right-wing terrorism has a much bigger movement and has naturally caused more damage. We could easily get back to a point where it flips again, but as of now there's no "alt-left" equivalent to Nazis and Klansmen.
And no, you're making the equivalency again. Comparing Antifa to Nazis is not like comparing a jerk to an a-hole. It's like comparing a violent, idiotic thug to someone who feels that the genocide of millions of people, including Jews, minorities, homosexuals, and the disabled is justified. Even if left-wing groups have caused more vandalism and destruction, the ideologies are not even close. You cannot make an equivalency. Again, I don't support Antifa in the slightest.
@Oujosh29, honestly, I can't believe that it's even a discussion. These are NAZIS.
@Blue Shirted Guy, I don't get it either.
@Blue Shirted Guy, the disconnect is, I think, Nazis maybe ideologically worse but they're so small they're basically irrelevant. Basically everyone hates their ideology, and when they do protest they are vastly outnumbered by the counter protesters. The alt left (Antifa, BLM, occupy wall street if they still exist) protest and destroy stuff all the time, while Charlottesville is the first time I've even heard of the Nazis doing a protest.
So in short, ok, Nazi ideology is horrible and worse, they are also irrelevant. I'd be more worried of some Antifa idiot doing something stupid rather than some skinhead having delusions of ever mattering anymore
@Oujosh29, who's more likely to do "something stupid" is an entirely different argument. Tell the people that just got run over that Nazis are basically irrelevant. Tell that to the rabbis who had to see Nazis marching down the streets outside their synagogues in 2017.
There is no "alt-left." The term has been created to give white supremacy and Nazism an equivalency. The term "alt-left" has been created. Fake flyers have been created to claim Antifa supports white genocide. Memes like this, while most likely not intentional, make it appear that both sides are as bad as one another. Trump said that "there were fine people on both sides." Hell, this Swordsman dude just said it's possible the Nazis in Charlottesville were just edgy jokesters, and he got upvoted. People call Antifa "fascists" and "Nazis" for causing violence at rallies. Do you not see a trend here? Antifa are scum, but do you see how it's being escalated past this to try to form an equivalency between them and Nazis?
@Oujosh29, also, there's a lot of people I'd be more worried about hurting me than Nazis on a day to day basis. Even if they did, I wouldn't think they were as bad as a Nazi.
@Blue Shirted Guy, meh, I'm not gonna worry about a group that's so small it's not even a tenth of a percent of this country. Nazi ideology is horrible, I agree, everyone agrees, that's how little supports the Nazis have. If this is just about who has the worse ideology, ok Nazis win hands down. But if it's about who's a bigger threat/more likely to hurt/destroy stuff, right now that's Antifa all the way.
And I use the term alt left because I think sounds cool. Alt right was made up to, might as well use the terms you like
@Oujosh29, no, you made it about who's more likely to hurt/destroy stuff. I used those statistics to show how deadly extreme right-wing terrorism has been. I never said that means it's more likely a Nazi will cause violence than an Antifa member.
I'm sorry, but this time you didn't respond whatsoever to the equivalency point. You completely ignored my question. Everyone agrees Nazis are bad, but it doesn't seem like everyone agrees their ideologies are worse than Antifa's. People are viewing them as equals.
People can use whatever terms they wish, but the reasons behind the 2 being created are completely different. They are not equivalent.
I'll ask you a direct set of questions. What do you think the reason was behind making the fake flyers? What do you think the reason was behind coining the term "alt-left?" Lastly, what do you think the reason was behind saying "there were fine people on both sides?" I think the answer is pretty clear. To make an equivalency.
@Blue Shirted Guy, I think I answered everything and stayed on topic. But to answer your questions:
1) no idea about the flyers, haven't read anything about it. Why I never talked about them.
2) Alt right became a term to describe the extreme right, so alt left make sense. And a cooler way to same the extreme left.
3) I think Trump was trying to be the typical politician and give a good sounding, don't condemn anyone statement. It's the classic politicians way, but there's an exemption to it; NEVER say anything good about Nazis. I dont think Trump sympathizes with them
- well, I believe I summed up what happened fairly accurately, but you can look it up.
- Alt-right became a term to describe white supremacists and the like. It was made to self-describe. Alt-left became a term to describe opposition, it wasn't self-coined. Lumping far-leftists and far-rightists into one equal group is my entire point. You may not even be consciously doing it, you just do it because it sounds cool. But that's exactly what you're doing.
- The classic politicians way *is to make an equivalency.* Exactly. He was trying to say both sides are equally in the wrong and both sides have good people. Whether he was sympathizing with them is a different argument. But do you see what I mean now? The equivalency being made?
@Blue Shirted Guy, I'm thinking we agree just talking past each other. Yes, Nazis are horrible, and Antifa is not equivalently as bad as them. At all. I never meant to say Antifa is as bad as Nazis, my point is that as of right now, it's the Antifa does more damage.
@Oujosh29, alright, well that's a different debate haha. Glad we had the discussion though.
I do want to ask you one last thing. Do you find it wrong that Swordsman's comment is getting so liked? I don't want to put you on the spot, but it's just sad to me. I'm a pretty liberal guy compared to this community, so I'm used to being disagreed with and seeing opposing comments get liked. But that one seems to be an outlier. I really can't believe people are supporting it.
@Blue Shirted Guy, not really. His comment doesn't say Nazis are good or their ideology isn't awful, he's basically saying the same as me. Nazis as a real threat now a days is basically nothing while Antifa actually is becoming a danger. And there is a pretty vocal group that calls anyone who is a conservative a Nazi so much the word is losing its meaning. I'm conservative and been accused of being Nazi many times just because I'm a conservative. He wasn't defending Nazis
@Blue Shirted Guy, I'm gonna ask you a question. Do you wear a blue shirt everyday, or is your tag lying some days?
@Oujosh29, sorry, I should've been more specific. It was what he said in parentheses that disgusted me. I know the act of "liking/disliking" makes it pretty hard to support/not support parts of a comment, but I wish someone else would've called him out on it.
(I agree and disagree with some of the other stuff, i just wasn't referring to that haha)
@Oujosh29, You got me. Coincidently I'm wearing blue shorts right now, so maybe I'm in the clear if nobody looks too closely at my name.
I made my name years ago on a C&H pic to get a top comment. I don't think I've hit as many likes since then haha. It's all been downhill
@Blue Shirted Guy, do I need to remind you that the Republicans protesting peacefully had no right to remove the Nazis any more than they had a right to remove Antifa? It's not like the majority of the protesters could actually do anything about the Nazis marching along with them because they don't consider removing them physically with violence to be justified.
@Blue Shirted Guy, the term alt-right was just as arbitrary and manufactured. it was originally created as a term for people to use on themselves to identify themselves as being right-wing but not traditionally conservative. the mainstream media of course turned it into all about white supremacy and Nazis and such because they can and because anything right of Stalin is automatically evil to the media and the people controlling it. so then you had actual white supremacist and Nazis become emboldened and start labeling themselves with all right and the general populace labeling those people with alt right so basically the original alt-right is now meaningless and no longer applies.
@Captain Swordsman, where did I say removing anybody physically with violence was justified? Please point me to where I said that.
@Blue Shirted Guy, that was a mistake and I've edited the comment since then. I was confusing you with someone else.
@Captain Swordsman, I don't know what to say to you. You are justifying someone marching alongside Nazis and Klansmen chanting "blood and soil" and "Jews will not replace us," among other horrible things. There's nothing to talk about with you
@Blue Shirted Guy, the best way I can figure, Nazis happened in one country, but communism swept many countries. We see Nazis as more historically evil, but communism was not just a party. It was more deadly, more seductive to average people, and it was arguably more ruthless at peak performance (gulags vs camps). There is virtually no danger of an American Nazi party taking root on a major scale. Communism however, is a real and growing threat, gaining traction through social justice. In ten years time, communists are a bigger threat than Nazis, imo. Ive been looking more at growth rates of the groups, and contextualizing their threat level that way.
@Blue Shirted Guy, only a few were chanting Jews, most of the men were chanting YOU will not replace us. that's the first thing I picked up watching the news after watching the live streams.
@Bethere2soon, communist Russia and China killed more of their own citizen combined than Hitler killed jews by a factor of over ten to one.
If we're talking which is more evil, communism is worse than nazism by the historical record alone; communism destroys economies, communities, and the environment, all in glorious, totalitarian stagflation. I truly never thought I'd say these words, but even the eugenics and slaughter of the Nazis didn't harm and kill as many people— they're off by an order of magnitude unless you consider the entirety of WWII breaking out as the result of the Nazi party
@Bethere2soon, I had a solid discussion with the user big freedom about this. A debate between communism and Nazism and which one is more evil/dangerous is perfectly reasonable. There are arguments for both sides. However, Antifa and the counter protesters were not organized communists pushing extreme-left policy. Antifa are scum, but they are an unorganized, flat anarcho-communist group with little to no leadership. They do not push policy. They are a reactionary group, not a proactive group. These are crucial differences. At least for now, you cannot make an equivalency between Antifa and actual communists, nor actual Nazis. Again, Antifa = violent, idiotic thugs. But there's not an equivalency between them and ideologies that support genocide and other horrors.
We don't have to worry about a Nazi or communist threat. We can worry about domestic terrorism, but there's not going to be a legitimate threat to any actual governmental power.
@Bethere2soon, to that last bit. C'mon. There were a huge number of people chanting "Jews will not replace us" and "blood and soil." There were literal Nazis and klansmen in that rally. Please do not make a defense for anybody marching with them.
(Edit: if you respond tonight, I'm not gonna see it till tomorrow. But I'll come back in and respond if you want to keep discussing anything!)
@Blue Shirted Guy, dicing it awful thin. And if your standard of how bad something is, is being an actual nazi... isn't that a really low bar? I hope any group I belong to is never measured against that bar. I'd rather be measured against something impossibly good rather than extremely bad.
"Well, he did feed a lot of hungry children... but he was no mother Theresa" that sounds a lot better than "well they're a violent terrorist group that has advocated abolishing whiteness and attack people for simply attending a rally, but they're not actual nazis."
@Blue Shirted Guy, antifa, BAMN, and BLM are obviously organized (black blocs and flash mobs), and well funded (Soros ads for paid protesters). We know they have clout in politics and education already (Felarca, Clanton, Naimi from evergreen, and others), and we know the individuals in those local power seats majorly lean left. This is a concerted effort by multiple groups, on multiple fronts. If you haven't been able to watch the protests,debates, and do the digging like I have, you may not be seeing the full scale of how big the militant left is becoming.
@big freedom, they haven't advocated abolishing whiteness in the sense of using violence against all white people. It's more in the terms of abolishing the sense of race. But sorta, ya, that's what I'm saying. They are a violent group, (whether they are terrorists is up for debate, not sure they're quite there yet) who aren't nearly as bad as actual Nazis. How is that dicing it thin? People can condemn them, that's fine. They suck. But stop making the equivalency to literal Nazis and klansmen.
Please look at all my above examples of how the equivalency is being made.
@Bethere2soon, I don't know how many different ways I can say it. Sure, the militant left as a whole has organization. Anybody who uses violence should be condemned. But again, they are not the equivalent to actual Nazis. People say that the left calling anybody who disagrees with them "nazis" makes that term weaker. Well, so does calling Antifa and BLM as bad as actual nazis, even if you think they are violent thugs.
Oujosh put it well. He simply thinks he is more likely to be punched or something like that by a member of Antifa or other violent leftist. That's not what I'm arguing against. There is no ideological equivalency between these current groups and actual Nazis.
Please look at all my above examples of how the equivalency is being made.
@Blue Shirted Guy, most kkk members don't actually commit any violence. All they do is yap their mouths. Antifa is actually a violent, yes terrorist, group. So I don't think they're "as bad" they're worse.
@Blue Shirted Guy, I see your point, they're all crap. Everyone agree?
@big freedom, alright well if you think violent thugs are as bad as people who support the mass murder of millions of people who just took part in running over 21 people and murdering one, then I guess that's on you. I thought we settled this on a different picture?
@Bethere2soon, they're all crap. Can definitely agree on that. It's the equivalency I'm arguing against. (The equivalency and saying "fine people on both sides" is also the reason why Trump is getting bashed)
@Blue Shirted Guy, we did. I'm just sick of people making excuses for Antifa and BAMN. They're despicable. They're being measured by a group that is the definition of what is the worst. There is an equivalency because they've made it so.
They showed up looking to make a fight with a group of bad people. I'm not at all surprised that some fûcking hick decided to go too far. It was only a matter of time.
Fûck the news media for letting them get away with their shît unchecked for so long.
Fûck the police for "standing down" when they crack innocent people's heads with bats and bike locks.
Fûck the local politicians for not interceding and allowing free speech to actually exist.
Fûck the universities for being cowards and allowing these àssholes to stop conservative speakers from coming to a campus.
And Fûck anyone else who doesn't condemn political violence loud and clear. "Well they're not as bad as nazis"
@Blue Shirted Guy, truth is there were free speech activists and decent liberals there too. Proportions will never be accurately known, but you can't equate all of either side to a particular group.
@Blue Shirted Guy, I was pretty deep into the punk/anarcho community during the late 90's-early 00's. I can say from experience looking back it did not seem evil at the time, but hind sight is that these people are more disgruntled and demented than most people know. Public opinion is swayed by appearances.
@Bethere2soon, no decent free speech activist would ever march with Nazis chanting those horrible things, intimidating Jews, and plotting to burn down synagogues. I don't think it's a debate in that sense. There were decent people among the counter protestors. There were no decent people marching with those torches.
That's all I'm trying to say here. There's no equivalency. I'm not saying anarcho communists are good people or anything like that. I don't even know how to respond to big freedom, cause he just lumped in 100 other things into what I'm trying to say
@big freedom, I'm not making excuses. There's no equivalency in their ideologies. The guy ran over peaceful counter protestors. You are acting as if he was instigated.
I don't know what to say to the rest of that. You seem to be expressing your outrage towards liberals and why they aren't condemning Antifa further. That has nothing to do with my argument.
@Blue Shirted Guy, they did hit his car before he hit anyone
@Bethere2soon, oh my. Please don't go there.
@Blue Shirted Guy, you seem to be under the impression that they are "peaceful counter protestors". That is completely and verifiably false. They came armed and intentionally instigated fights.
You are, at the very least, an apologist for terrorists, which is part of my rant above. Fûck that - they cause political violence and that is by definition a terrorist act.
@big freedom, Antifa aren't peaceful counter protestors, no. But the people run over were not instigating the driver. There were tons of peaceful protestors. Were the people he ran over all Antifa?
How am I an apologist for terrorists? What are you talking about? How many times do I need to condemn their actions? Literally all I'm saying is they aren't the equivalents to Nazis. We established that last time. Antifa = scum. Violent idiots. Even terrorists. Not equivalent to Nazis. That's it. Not defending them whatsoever
@big freedom, I sincerely mean this respectfully. Most of the time when we begin a discussion/debate, you get very emotional and take out all your frustrations about the left on me, because I'm often portraying left-leaning viewpoints. When you realize what my often very specific argument actually is, we tend to agree or the discussion gets very respectful.
One last thing. If you think I'm an apologist for terrorists (I don't think you do, I think you're just venting) then I'd expect you to call out others. Swordsman implied the Nazis may not have been real. Bethere2soon said they hit his car before he hit anyone. That is far worse than anything I've said about Antifa, and I'm full-on condemning them. Please keep your outrage consistent.
@Blue Shirted Guy, I enjoy the debate and like to see if I can push people's buttons.
I do try IRL to be intellectually honest and consistent. It's not hard because I have pretty strong beliefs and can't stand party affiliation because it blinds people to the actual debate.
@big freedom, I can't stand it either. I probably lean left but I'm not associated with any party. So many debates are like sports fans yelling at each other. Sometimes it gets frustrating
@Blue Shirted Guy, that's the analogy I use all the time. Team identification is so counter productive. I've seen people change their stance completely just because someone from the "other team" came out in favor for the same idea. So stupid.
@Blue Shirted Guy, lol, didn't mean to be a Nazi sympathizer. That would hurt my Jewish grandfather terribly. I have always tried to break down all details, and then contextualize.
@Bethere2soon, haha I don't think you were being a Nazi sympathizer. I think you are doing the right thing in trying to contextualize all the details, but I think that responsibility is making you try to be so neutral in an issue that shouldn't really have this much of a middle ground.
@Blue Shirted Guy, that's what I'm really trying to parse out. The middle ground is so blurry, because the surrounding waters have become so muddy. When I started to shift from left to right leaning, I had to analyze and redefine most of the categories I had been programmed with. I just wish we were better than all this as a people. The past few years have virtually proven my belief in a fallen world.
@Bethere2soon, maybe there is no middle ground, maybe it's just a foggy slush like the Nothing 🤔
@Blue Shirted Guy, I had a few beers after work, and was reading back through the dialogue. Thank you for being civil. We're in dire need of it right now. Men like you help to give hope. You're a Moral Patriarch in my book
@Bethere2soon, haha no problem. You as well!
@Blue Shirted Guy, saw this today, figured you'd find it interesting
For anyone who doesn't know, a drumpf is a compuslive liar.
@DHS Crisis Actor, *Gets asspained if people call Caitlyn Jenner "Bruce".*
*Calls Donald Trump "Drumpf"*
@Captain Swordsman, who's Caitlyn Jenner?
@DHS Crisis Actor, Google.com has the answer, I'm too lazy
@Captain Swordsman, no Google is fake news. It's true because Trump said so.
No I kid. I remember now. That whole fiasco was sheer assclownery.
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-Armored Skeptic, and this meme.
@Captain Swordsman, I don't think that's what he says, but ok. Opinions are opinions
@Captain Swordsman, Argue a strawman, with a strawman.
@Weird Porn Stash, HA! Your straw man is no match for my scarecrow
I don't get posts like this. Like sure there are extremists on the left but they aren't nearly as vocal or as widespread as the literal Nazis and KKK on the other side, and one side is treated as relatively normal while the other side is bashed on a regular basis (hint: you don't really see anyone actually defending left extremists that aren't also left extremists )
*walks through crowds, distributing medieval weapons*
down with opinions that don't accommodate my feelings
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ANTIFA claims they are going to crash the annual Sturgis bike rally this year. For those that don't know, Sturgis is a town that becomes loaded with bikers for one week out of the year. It's the largest bike rally in the U.S. So at least we know ANTIFA will no longer be an issue when they inevitably start some sh!t by hitting a biker and pubbled by 700,000 of his/her biker buddies
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