I feel like I want to play csgo right now
@MrKrowley, already am
@MrKrowley, i dont like the new Dust II
Honestly, though, Hitler was a pretty good artist. Too bad he was also pretty good at genocide.
@Doctor Krieger, if he was good at genocide, there wouldn't be any jews left
@YaBoiSlimG, name anyone else who has killed more Jews. I'll wait.
@Doctor Krieger, I’m gonna take a guess and say some ancient middle eastern civilization with stern feelings for the Jew. Or mecha Hitler
@YaBoiSlimG, Dont have to be 100% at something to be good at it. Michael Jordan didnt make every shot.
@Doctor Krieger, Give me a few days
@Baby Cthulhu, nope. Not even Mecha-Hitler, he only killed a few dozen test subjects. 5 weren't even Jews.
@Doctor Krieger, technically, Hitler directly killed very few people. While he is most commonly credited with the inception of the Final Solution, he isn’t actually the creator of that, either. That ‘honour’ goes to Heinrich Himmler, Hitler’s right hand man. He was the architect of the Holocaust.
@I Are Lebo, it’s kinda hard to distribute evil points here. Hitler had to approve of everything Himmler wanted to do, so it was really hitler who enacted these acts- also to note, himmler very rarely actually killed Jews. He was quite squeamish around blood and became ill at the sight of it or the bodies. So yea, neither of them did any real direct killing- and because hitler approved these things (just as the president approves congressional movements) the honor goes to hitler.
@YaBoiSlimG, that’s true, I’m Jewish and I’m still here, I think
@Doctor Krieger, why would you wait for nothing?
@The Common Shaman, while all true points, it’s not really relevant to my argument. To say that “Hitler killed six million people” discounts all of the other people who share responsibility, from the populace who voted him into power to the soldiers that pulled the actual triggers.
@I Are Lebo, and I said no such thing
@The Common Shaman, this whole thread began based on the point of whether or not Hitler was good at genocide based on his success rate. My response to that is that this issue is more complicated than that and to simplify it down to “the Holocaust happened because of Hitler” is disingenuous.
Not every sentence placed between quotation marks is a reference to a comment made by you. I’m remarking that the implication or inference that Hitler is to be credited with all of it is not reasonable.
@I Are Lebo, you get worked up very easily and it’s very amusing. I’m not disagreeing that the holocaust was a big pot of Jews with many chefs in the mix. I’m just saying hitler was indeed the head chef
@The Common Shaman, it’s ironic that you call me out for getting worked up when I’ve remained completely calm this entire discussion. I am simply defending my argument. The truth is, in the chef analogy Hitler is not the head chef. Himmler is. In this analogous situation, Hitler would be the restaurant manager or owner.
In addition, it’s important to remember that Jews were not the only victims of the holocaust. Approximately twelve million lives ended in the death camps, and about half of them were Jews.
You are the one who seems to take it personally when anyone who disagrees with you doesn’t immediately concede to your point of view. Having said that, I appreciate you remaining civil in this thread and not resorting to deliberately inflammatory comments.
@I Are Lebo, well I would agree with you there, but I was going for more of a executive chef/sous chef deal. I’m aware, I took a couple holocaust classes. I’m not disagreeing with you, I just think hitler had a larger role is all I was trying to get it in more words than less
@The Common Shaman, I understand that, but my father is a teacher who is a member of the Shoah foundation and I grew up learning about the Holocaust. That’s why it bothers me as much as it does when someone tries to deny that it happened.
The truth is that for the majority of the time between 1939 and 1945, Adolf Hitler was predominantly preoccupied with fighting the war. The man was a monster, yes, but I think it’s important to remember who did what, lest history lose its meaning.
Josef Mengel, Heinrich Himmler, Hermann Göring, this are names that shouldn’t be forgotten. It’s too easy to put everything on Hitler, and by so doing we forget the crimes of the men beside him.
Having said that, I don’t really disagree with you on basic principle, it’s more of a matter of degrees for me. It may be a semantic argument, but I think it’s an important semantic to remember. Genocides aren’t performed by one man.
@I Are Lebo, dude I don’t care
@I Are Lebo, Close. To say "Only Hitler killed 6million people" would discredit the others. Since this was a team effort and Hitler had a part in each of those deaths, it's not incorrect to say he killed each of them.
@Jdrawer, my whole point is that yes, it is inaccurate to say that Hitler killed each of them
@I Are Lebo, And my point is that it isn't.
@Jdrawer, I’ve backed up my point, you have not. To say that Hitler has total responsibility for each individual killed is like saying that Pablo Escobar is responsible for each individual killed by the cartel. That’s not how responsibility works. Hitler was guilty of many war crimes, but not for twelve million individual murders.
I disagree with your point and have backed up my argument.
@I Are Lebo, To say I have not backed up my point and to say I claim Hitler has total responsibility show you didn't read my comment.
@Jdrawer, I did read it. You claimed that Hitler had a part in each and every death, which is not accurate.
@The Common Shaman, you came so far towards being an actual adult, only to fall at the finish line by being a downvote troll. Pity.
@I Are Lebo, His policies led to those deaths. How did he not have a part?
@Jdrawer, because, as I said, Hitler was primarily occupied with the war on the Allied forces, not on the holocaust. When you lay all of the deaths at his feet specifically, you deny the involvement of the actual masterminds of the holocaust. It would be more realistic to blame Hitler specifically for the war deaths. Yes, he was involved in the holocaust, yes, it would likely not have happened without him. But when you say “Hitler was responsible for each and every death” you are, intentionally or not, denying the involvement of Goring, Himmler, Mengele, and the others.
I worry that soon the only name remembered for these crimes will be Hitler’s. That’s all I’m saying.
@I Are Lebo, I have a cupful of tears as it seems that somebody on the internet has stripped me of my adulthood because I downvoted them, as they did me 😢
@The Common Shaman, you are a troll, plain and simple.
@I Are Lebo, if that’s what helps you sleep at night bucko
Not trying to be a grammar nazi but Hitler's name should be capitalized
@Redtiger, His name doesn’t deserve to be capitalized
@K1l, May not deserve to be capitalized but, it still should be. It is a name after all.
@ChuckxWagon, exactly! I mean if you don’t capitalize it you are disrespectful to all of the other perfectly decent people named Hitler that exist in the world.
@BearDaniels, it’s just a surname. No need to worry.
@Redtiger, it must be some hipster who wrote it. So many companies are starting now with lower case names. Some established companies have even changed just to have lowercase names. I don't know why it's a thing.
The Fuhrer was a terrific painter! He could do an entire apartment in one afternoon! Two coats!
Perspective is off, not enough range in values, not a strong focal point, muddy colors, sloppy brushwork. Sorry, Mr. Hitler, I think you’ll have to find another career.
@HolyCatchphrase, I feel like those exact words were once said to Hitler by a Jewish art critic and that’s why the holocaust happened.
Rush b cyka blyat
@sneaky stick, child support getting offered?
isnt that a map from COD
@Motor psycho, I was thinking counterstrike.
Honestly I hate landscapes for the most part. I mean now a days you got photography so I just can’t stand to look at a poorly drawn substitution. I don’t care who paints or takes a picture of it’s something I like but I just don’t like paintings very much. I mean drawing something that you can’t take a picture of like something fictional that’s fine otherwise I dislike it even if it’s from before photography. I know it’s stupid but there you go I have had lots of discussions with art teachers in the few instances where they made me take a art class and plain and simple I hate being made to pretend to appreciate art and am perfectly fine with not forcing students to take art
@George Feeny, people seem to think everyone should have to take art for the few people who learn they truly love it. They argue those few who might never have learned of their talent justifies forcing every student to sit through it. I feel the exact opposite, I think it’s a waste of money to force say 30 kids to take a class if only one or two decide to move forward with the subject. It just always pissed me off because I get annoyed having to pretend that a poorly painted landscape or cloudy cityscape means anything more then that’s what the person wanted to draw. I hate when I am asked to “explain what the piece says to me” because I honestly like to think in a more literal sense and not just make crap up and attribute it to a long dead artist.
@George Feeny, rant over, honestly I wasn’t aware how strongly I felt about this myself till it was assumed I liked a painting that I thought of as horribly drawn lol. I must be dead tired
@George Feeny, You're missing the point, especially when it comes to landscapes. Painting isn't always about capturing realistic imagery. More often than not, it's about capturing expression of emotion. This also applies to many landscapes.
@Jdrawer, i literally said I hate having to pretend that a painting means anything more than what it depicts I don’t do the whole infer emotions of someone I never met as that is beyond stupid. I mean how the hell can anyone tell me what someone meant by a painting made centuries ago. I am fine with stating what I feel about a painting I despise when people state there is a correct response.
He wasn't even that good
The only person ever to make their name big with an art degree
@Asian Drivr Look Out, *The only person with an art degree to make their name big.
This reminds me of a map from mw3...
Looks like a call of duty map
“I did nazi that coming” -some person
The A on the wall really bugs me
@Goodusername, how else are we supposed to know the way to Auschwitz?
Does this make me a nazi sympathizer now??
Looks oddly familiar....
@Richard Cypher, ya but can't see it that well with all that dust don't you have that 2?