Technically, in english the male pronoun is also the neutral pronoun. Man is also gender neutral; it's the old english word for person. Woman comes from the old english word wifman which literaly meant female person.
@The Manwhore, what annoys me most about that is "he" can be used when referring to someone of unknown gender instead of the incorrect "they", but the feminists had to f*ck that up because it was "sexist" so now everyone prefers to be incorrect.
@RAM Card, well, the thing about language is that it's only incorrect if nobody speaks like that, but since so many people are using they as a neutral pronoun then it is becoming proper grammar. I'm fine with language changing, after all language is always changing, but I would rather us not change the language based on a flawed understanding.
@RAM Card, unknown gender?
@The Manwhore, facts. I think dictionaries already consider they as a singular pronoun.
@WelI Obviously, I don't know your gender, therefore it is unknown. If I was talking about you in the third person, I wouldn't know whether to use he or she.
@RAM Card, feminists didn't create saying "they" as a neutral pronoun, it's a colloquialism because saying "he" can be confusing in conversation if someone's gender is unknown
@HolyCatchphrase, actually they had a big part of it. It wasn't considered "sexist" until they made it so. That's why it is no longer used.
@RAM Card, but even for people who don't think it's sexist it's an excepted and widely used use of the word. It's a colloquialism. I used to argue that it was incorrect but have since been corrected. Saying "he" as a gender neutral phrase has fallen out of common practice for more reasons than feminism
@HolyCatchphrase, my point is feminism was a big factor in that paradigm shift, arguably the biggest factor
@RAM Card, When did the switch from he to they occur? Which era of feminism? How? Did they write articles, petition certain institutions?
@KeKesUHaulFacility , the late 20th century it began being viewed as sexist. I'm not a historian so I don't know the entirety of the history behind it. I was taught by a professor that feminism had an affect on this change, I'm sure you could find plenty information online
@RAM Card, singular they has been used in American English for at least a century by writers and poets. not necessarily commonly, but enough that it isn't new.
@Ruupasya, I never once said it was new.
Unfortunately Sweden is also being overrun by migrant gang rapes and mass crimes so
@smii7y, It really isnt
@Charlemagne, do you just not watch the news or prefer to ignore reality? Europe has become a petri dish of pedophilia and gang rape over the past 2 years mainly due to migrant men coming from cultures stuck in the 16th century
@ Seductive Cheeto, There's been a few but it's not being "overrun". That's a hyperbole which is what I was saying was wrong
@Charlemagne, it is overun with rapists. I wouldnt let the lack of coverage fool you. It happens every day in europe now. ( atleast the parts with high muslim population.) You know just this week a group of migrants raped a girl in the wheel chair for several hours. Not a single one of them got punished. They found their DNA inside her and they didnt even claim to not have done it. They just said that she was asking for it. Scott free no punishment. They shipped them off to another part of the country incase any of the locals decide to do whats right and put those animals down. Theyll probably do it again why not they got away the first time.
@smii7y, yeah I'm sure this is the reason for it
@smii7y, not to mention the unreasonable cost of living do to enormous taxes. But hey, they don't have to learn biology apparently!
@BlazingBowman, well they did claim that it wasn't them but it was found that it was. the argument (albeit stupid and incorrect) was that she didn't forcibly (mind you a woman in a wheelchair) try to stop them (mainly because she couldn't). I like your point about Sweden in that there are a lot of problems (just like Norway and other northern Baltic states) with their government and law problems that make what was said in this picture incorrect and show that people don't seem to realize that there is more to society than everybody being 100% respected. I think a problem (and this is just my opinion agree or disagree) with our society is that we tend to think more about our own right and what would make ourselves most comfortable (ie gender neutrality, multiple genders etc) than what is truly good for society. as far as your comments however, I think we should avoid generalizations. as someone who visits Europe often and has a lot of family all throughout Europe, I have to disagree
@BlazingBowman, that muslims are overrunning Europe. I also don't think we should ever say that we should put people down or think of them as animals. that's the sort of thinking that leads to slavery and the belief that a certain group of people, because of their beliefs are inferior. while I agree they should be punished, using strong rhetoric like that only leads to fights, people intrenching themselves in their opinions and no longer being open to others or compromise, and hateful attitudes. I think there has to be a middle ground between "everyone needs to have exactly what they want because they're all people and we need to help every single person in the world" and "fvck *insert group of people here* because a small group of them did *insert xyz thing here* so they're all aholes and they're taking over my country protect the boarder". I'm not saying you're wrong. I just caution on using strong rhetoric. thanks for reading my opinions lol ignore agree or disagree!
@BlazingBowman, This is why I'm glad I live in Texas. We wouldn't let those animals get away with shjt like that.
@The Big Hodge, I dont buy that because some people, regardless of race, act in a way unbefitting to be called human, they act on a subhuman level. Its a slippery slope, but I cant in good conscience put people who will gang rape cripples for hours and get away with it on the same level as normal human beings. The law is important, and is usually correct. But people know how to skirt the law now more than ever.
@Pious Augustus, yeah, fvck people who do horrible things but to say that all Muslims are bad people because a small group of them do horrendous acts is like saying all Christians are horrible because the KKK is a Christian organization or everyone at Stanford is awful because one guy raped a girl
@thesamfactory, There are something like 2 billion people that are considered muslim, and extremists make up less than id say 200,000 give or take, so that really drives the point home that if people hate all muslims because of extremsists, then they are pretty fvckin stupid.
@The Big Hodge, no your dumb i shouldnt put down a bunch of gang rapists for being animals. Are you daft. Im not saying all muslims are animals im saying those people are. And they most certainly did do it. They said they did. They just said she wanted it and that got them off scott free. Oh and because were a collective apparently we shouldnt be concerned about our rights being violated. We should just let that happen because apparently its better for the group. Yes everyone should be treated equally that means no one is immune from law and criticism which apparently muslims are nowadays. Apparently its only rape when a white dude does it.
@thesamfactory, well the group is larger in the muslim world. Their ideas about women show when introduced in a western society. If this was a large group of white people doing the exact same thing then their would be a media sh*tstorm instead of a cover up.
@Pious Augustus, yeah extremists being classified under people who are terrorists. Their is a larger portion who hold beliefes that you would consider disgusting. Believes that gays should be in prison, that the husband should be able to demand sex from their wifes and they have to comply, beliefs that women are only worth half of men. Of course not all of them are extremists, but the laws in the middle east are not the way they are because of 200,000 people its a majority that have these backwards views.
@BlazingBowman, okay. if this is how you would like to be we can do it with is way as well. 1) it's you're not your. if you're going to insult my intelligence, do it properly (side note have you heard of an apostrophe?). I was simply saying that the way you were saying it makes it sound like that is what you were saying, and that that causes problems. Now if you read the articles, it in fact says that they said they didn't do it. I'm not saying that they didn't, I'm saying that they didn't blatantly admit to it until it was already proven to have been them. Also muslims are in no way immune from law and criticism. In Germany, they are persecuted by the people and most of them have done nothing wrong. In France, they are subjected to terrible treatment and some of them believe that it would be better to go back to the torment of Syria than dealing with what they must deal with there. In Calais the jungle is some of the worst human conditions I have seen and the French are demolishing it
@Pious Augustus, here are the moderate stats there are 1.62 billion muslims 1.39 of them believe that the wife should always obey the husband. 1.1 of the believe sharia law should rule 748 million believe in death for adultery, 548 million believe you should be killed for leaving islam.
@BlazingBowman, with now plan for where these people are to go. As far as raping it is always considered rape, in the US. In the US there are cases of rape from whites, blacks, Asians, women and men, and even native Americans. The law does not discriminate as much as you claim it does in the US. Unfortunately for your opinion, Sweden is not the US and has a very different government and law system than we do. You assume that they are like us but they are not. Not even close. I implore you to look up rape cases in Sweden where you will see that there are many many people who have gotten off with rape in that country which is terrible, but it is not our country. The fact of this case is that they are Muslim which is why so many people are outraged by their actions. If they were white and did the same thing in the same country, they would most likely get off with it as well, and no one outside of their small town would ever know because we do not care. We've heard about "white dude" rape
@The Big Hodge, correction they said they didnt rape her which is what i said. They said she wanted sex from her and the several hours they spent in the bathroom was consensual. Which any idiot can figure out is bull. And no they pretty much are immune only like a two people were actrually convicted for the mass rape and molestation in cologne of new years eve. They dont get prosecuted for two reasons they fear they"ll become radicalized in prison, and that there really isnt alot of room in their current prisons. Also im not gonna bother to spell check. My oppinion on anyone who corrects grammar in an argument is that they simply dont have an argument. And the Calais jungle has such sh*t conditions (other than it being a hastily made shanty town in order to atleast attempt to house the millions of muslims flooding in) is because of the muslim youths in the camp. Gays have to be put in different camps because the other muslims will beat them senseless.
@BlazingBowman, before, but Muslim rape? that's a new one and people will react, much as you have done, which is why it is so popular in the news. Ever notice how on those articles everyone responding is not in fact Swedish?
@The Big Hodge, i never said u.s law discriminate im saying european laws are lenient on muslims. And i hear that before the migrants the swedes were really strict on punishing rape with a consecutive rape charge for every time they raped a person ( even if it was in one go through a several hour period). But since the mass muslim immigration rapes have skyrocket 1000% (wish i wouldve rememberd that statistic before) and no i really doubt that white people would get off as easy seeing as how white people are being arrested for the words they say in europe now.
@The Big Hodge, no theres outrage in sweden aswell. After the girl in a wheelchaur was gang raped and the offendors were relocated the town had a silent protest. No one said a word. And the swedish government sent in about 30 officers to quell it.
@BlazingBowman, In 2009, Amnesty International published a report on rape in the Nordic countries, criticizing the low conviction rates in Sweden, citing previously published estimates from Brå of around 30,000 incidents of rape, with less than 13 percent of the 3,535 rape crimes reported resulting in a decision to start legal proceedings and 216 persons convicted in 2007.
there is your rape statistic. as you can see, there are hardly any convictions compared to rapes, and as you can see from the year, there was no Muslim crises at the time of this statistic.
@The Big Hodge, your assuming that all 30000 incidents were indeed rape. You cant know that unless you believe every woman who claims rape its not always so cut and dry as this case. Raoe statistics can get pretty nuanced and you really have to sort through all the data. That being said a 1000% increase in at the very least rape claims that so happend to coincide with a mass influx of young men from a culture that treats women like cattle should be looked at.
@Charlemagne, No, it's true. I myself am a migrant gang rapist criminal.
@ Seductive Cheeto, Yeah, it's sick, what they ought to do is be a bunch of gang rapists and pedophiles all on their own. Like us!
Well if the fact that we have pronouns is a problem, you can go to Sweden. I'm sure you'll absolutely LOVE it
The thing is, Sweden and the U.S. are vastly different by culture. This would not work in the United States, where gender roles define so much of our cultural tropes and such.
@Not Actually a Corgi, no you see, since the US is super bad and only benefits white people even though there is no white majority, we need to be like the superhero European countries who have....a massive percentage of white people in the population compared to us.
@Thatbright, "blacks" are the only people who receive Grant's based on there skin color, and further more you get way more Grant's and gender exclusive job opportunities being a female, so I really think you are gratuitously of base.
@Deep Web Digger, I'm just making a joke based on what I see people post online. Alot of people say whites have all the privilege here but say we should be more like European countries, which have a higher percentage of white people
@Thatbright, i would call them a shill, because they would be promoting lies...
Yes, just one pronoun. No -kins or pronouns for each and every individual person.
@BluFlaminMonky, but...but...how can I be a special snowflake if I don't have my own pronoun? (By the way, I go by zhxgim)
Swedens full of idiots its why their women are getting gang raped on a weekly basis now.
So much unfunny in one post...
Girlfriend? Lil dude? ASSUMING GENDERS??? *trigger*
Because no matter how progressive you wanna be, 90% of the time a boy doesnt want to push a stroller, and a girl doesnt want to be spiderman. Thats just the gay kids.
The CDC reports that 43.9% of women and 23.4% of men in the US experience sexual violence in their lifetime
There's only two genders. Spew as many word salads as you want, nothing is gonna change that.
@good ol Jeffrey , no I think we agree.
Sweden is so liberal they put black Germans in a ww1 game
I also like how Swedes prefer to let Muslims fvck their wives rather than take a stand and risk being called racists.