I can already hear her at home complaining to her friends and family:
“This madman driving a van tried to kill me today, he literally came out of nowhere. People like that need to have their license taken away.”
@pirey, technically that was a pedestrian crossing so the van really should have stopped for her.
@pirey, once a pedestrian has entered the crossing, they have right of way and vehicles must stop and let them cross. Driver was completely in the wrong.
@TheMonkeyGod, except she runs to it she may have tried to commit suicide
@TheMonkeyGod, there’s a huge difference between checking the crosswalk before walking (like any person concerned for their safety would) and not bothering to look before you walk and blatantly walk into traffic that’s going 40 mph 20 feet away. Based on the angle of the dash cam footage, I’m assuming the van driver was unable to see the pedestrian approaching from behind the filming car, and instead of looking before crossing she just starts to walk anyway. Right before she gets hit you can even see her starting to run towards the van.
I don’t know the whole story here, but she could have endangered the lives of potentially multiple people by forcing a car into the opposing lane at the last second due to her negligence. Granted, the vehicles don’t look to be going that fast, but the same logic applies to any crosswalk.
@pirey, fundamentally correct, but the law does not care. It's essentially always the drivers fault.
@TheMonkeyGod, this does not seem to be in the US, so it may not be that cut and dry.
@NotCaveJohnson, laws are the same in UK and Australia. It's mental.
@TheMonkeyGod, but since she runs into the bus at the end I would guess she was trying to get run over on purpose for insurance scam kind of thing. this would definitely be a close case to whom is really at fault.
@Beetle Juice, pedestrian had already left the side walk and entered into the crossing, at that juncture, especially given she'd made it on half way, it will be the drivers fault.
Think of it as being a situation where you have to give way to another vehicle, but they seem to slow down and hesitate, you decide to go, and then they accelerate and you buy them. You're at fault because of your failure to give way as the law requires. Regardless of the other person's actions.
I don't agree with it, but it's the law.
@TheMonkeyGod, judging by the height of the vehicle the dash cam is attached to, I'd say it is larger than the car in front, so she might not have been visible to the van. If the van is going the speed limit and not driving recklessly and someone unseen darts into the roadway from out of nowhere and gets hit, doubtful that anyone would place blame on the driver. Especially with the dash cam footage showing her disregard for traffic and her apparent distraction with her phone. When pedestrians are crossing a road sure they have the right of way, but it's the pedestrians responsibility to cross when permitted via street signals or when the road is clear if there aren't signals. As she clearly didn't, she has blame
@Richard Cypher, the law doesn't ask you to monitor the road as you cross, or even to look. There appear to be no lights, and at the time she crosses the road is clear, the road is marked as a crossing, which she is using. Again, as she has right of way the driver is the one who has to be careful due to obscured view. That's the whole point of right of way.
Personally I think the law is wrong. Pedestrian crossings should have traffic lights attached and pedestrians held accountable for being morons... sadly they are not.
@TheMonkeyGod, uuuuuh no. Not when the vehicles already going to fast to stop for the dip sh!t who decided to cross without looking first.
@TheMonkeyGod, there are actually many stipulations to right of way, and there is no such thing as superior right of way. One such stipulation is that a pedestrian may not leave the curb or enter a crosswalk into the path of a moving vehicle that is too close to stop. There are also further rulings that when the crosswalk is obscured the "curb" starts the edge of the obstruction. Of course laws vary from state to state so you should look into your states detailed right of way laws. As for across the pond I don't know their exact laws but I'm sure they have detailed stipulations just like each of the states.
@GunLovingMerican, I'm with you on this, just the law doesn't care. You're meant to be aware of pedestrians who look like they are about to cross and drive appropriately. The laws were brought in mostly with children in mind. I think it started in the US then the UK followed and then a bunch of others joined in.
@AbolishedShadow, I'm going to suggest you edit on the but about "no such thing as a superior right of way", there is. Not specifically related to this situation, but others. Think of stop signs for example.
On this one, they pedestrian is a moron and I'm pleased they got hit, however, the driver whose view was occluded is required to slow and approach with care. The laws we're written with children in mind. That's why they are so damn protective of pedestrians. The driver is pretty much always at fault. The exception is for the suicide type crossing, where the person throws themself into the path of the vehicle.
@TheMonkeyGod, though I disagree with most of your logic. You are correct because of that sign. That sign is telling the driver that he needs to be extra careful of pedestrians. But, with this footage, he wouldn’t be guilty.
Maybe the bus was in the wrong. Doesn't matter if you're dead. Pay attention to your surroundings.
I thought it was going to be about the portal she was walking through.
Good, I heard she was a total bjtch
straight up in that crosswalk through and through. Pay day.
POW right in the kisser
Lmao @ title
Had the van not swerved to avoid her she wouldn't of just ran into the side of it.
Tbh, I don't trust crosswalks. The last 3 times I used one, each time a car ran through when it was my time to go. The last one was close to hitting me too. Chick was pissed off too, even though it was clearly my right to go. Gave her the bird and promptly told her to F off.
The van didnt have time to stop. As you can see by it being on the wrong side of the road. Glad her first reaction was to pick up her phone. Too stupid to be that lucky
Why do people stare at their feet when they're walking? Do your other senses not work well enough?
@Dknessfalls, some ppl do it bc they are shy others bc they are stupid to not look out she is part of the 2th reason